American Nerd Interview: Emmett Chapman

by Stephen McClurg
11.14.05

 

Emmett Chapman is an innovator. As a musician, he developed a two-handed technique on guitar that allowed him to play melodic and harmonic components at the same time. Seeing the limitations of the guitar in fulfilling his ideas, he invented an instrument--the Chapman Stick--that would allow him to transform his musical concepts into reality. Not only is he unlike other musicians in that he created his own instrument, but also unlike many musicians, Chapman has never shied away from the workshop or the business office. Chapman handmade his early prototypes and the first production line of Chapman Sticks in 1974. He is also the extremely active president of Stick Enterprises. Outside all of these duties, he has also served as a teacher and mentor to Stick players all over the world. As his web site shows, Chapman has taken a very personal interest in keeping up with those that play the instrument. Always generous with ideas and generous with time, I felt lucky to get a chance to talk with him.

American Nerd: Where do you see the Stick now and where would you like to see it go?

EMMETT CHAPMAN: The concept is there, also the music and the demand.Now I
need to make some breakthroughs in production.

AN: In what way? Mass production? Given the opportunity, it seems like younger kids who are proficient piano players but want to play bass or guitar might gravitate towards Stick. But, I’ve never even seen a used one in music stores around the Gulf Coast.

EC: I don't think it can be as ambitious as mass production.The specs for the basic construction that enables the precision setup for two-handed tapping are so demanding, but I'd like to greatly increase production, also to supply US music stores.I'm working on it.

AM: Most people that I have talked to that know about the Chapman Stick all seem to have heard King Crimson’s Tony Levin play it first. Why do you think that he introduced so many people to the instrument?

EC: Because he's Tony, and on account of his consistant good taste in everything he pursues and because he repeatedly toured with King Crimson and Peter Gabriel playing lots of Stick.

AN: It seems to me that the Stick is seen as, if not a “weird” instrument, at least a difficult one. What do you make of that? Is that why we generally don’t see Stick players in many popular bands?

EC: Judging from the music conceived and performed by Stick artists, I'd say it has to be a mainstream instrument. If you're dealing in perceptions only, you might assume the weirdness you mention.

AM: How do you mean “mainstream instrument”? In judging by the music--in terms like traditional harmony or style? Instead of listening to the music and judging by that, that people tend to see more strings than guitars, the two-hand technique, and the accompaniment/ counterpoint possibilities of the instrument and decide that it is “difficult”?

EC: Two-handed tapping guitar and bass guitar must by now be mainstream. I created a particular tapping method that is embodied in The Stick design. There's nothing strange about the method itself or all the genres of mainstream music that can be played on the instrument.

AM: What is interesting to me is that the Stick is an electric, stringed instrument like a guitar or bass, but it isn't featured very often in popular, or what I am referring to as "mainstream," channels. If a band like Slipknot decided to add a Stick player, do you think we would see a new crop of musicians gravitate toward the Stick instead of guitar or bass? Why has that not necessarily happened? Or has it and I have just missed it? Am I making too big a deal out of this and people who are going to play Stick are just going to find it? I’m just curious how popular perception does or doesn’t affect the instrument and its players. There seems to be a fairly high level of musicianship in the Stick world and I wonder if that is perhaps a reason why it is not always featured in the types of music and types of music presentation that I am referring to.

EC: Don't worry so much about it. The rich variety of live and recorded Stick music being played is proof of the instrument's future.

AN: Has anyone taken Stick playing or technique past your initial vision? In other words, has anyone surprised you?

EC: I'm often surprised by the musical creations featuring Stick in recordings and live performances.

AN: Do you have any favorite Stick recordings?

EC: I like all of them that are reviewed at www.stick.com/videoscds. I wrote many of the reviews myself.

AM: Do you have any favorite compositions, composers, or musicians?

EC: Yes, I can credit the following in-depth instrumental stylists as my main influences, starting with Tal Farlow, Barny Kessel, John Coltrane, McCoy Tyner, Jimi Hendrix, John McLaughlin, Allan Holdsworth, and finally some of the "Stickists" who because of their techniques and styles have prodded me forward like Greg Howard, Don Schiff and Bob Culbertson (and several others of course).

AN: What do you like to listen to? When you get up on a Saturday or Sunday, what do you want to hear?

EC: I work weekends. Sometimes I listen to a song that I'm trying to "rearrange" and reharmonize. Those can be classical, jazz, rock, pop, ethnic or Brazilian.

AN: What are you "rearranging" now?

EC: A Celtic French folk song from Brittany, "A Kiss from a Rose" sung by Seal, Rachmaninoff's 2nd Concerto, and the old jazz standard "Stella by Starlight,” but I "Chapmanize" them all.

AN: Are these Chapmanizations for solo or ensemble? Recording or live?

EC: They're solo but can be applied to a Stick/drums duo with the right percussionist.I plan to record these novel song arrangements some time soon but for now I've just been playing them live.

AN: With reference to the Rachmaninoff piece and "Stella by Starlight," are you looking at a score or lead sheet? Or are you listening to particular performances of those pieces that you like and rearranging from there?

EC: I don't learn songs visually. I just listen, but not too long, as I want to reinterpret the song, convey my impression, reharmonize the chords, stress certain intervals in the melody, and also catapult into an abstract improv mode based on elements of the song.

AN: Is there a Chapmanization method or do you let the composition direct you?

EC: Not so much a method as a pervasive style.I've long felt that the artist should be a stylist, and with some good fortune that style may be transcended to the level of invention, invention of a new musical language.

To find out about Chapman’s musical language, check out his web site, which includes a list of workshops and concerts.

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